One of the most important things a worship leader can learn is how to lead silence. Leading silence is much more difficult than leading a song.”
My favorite podcasts to listen to are ones that are a bit uncomfortable – conversations that shine a light on a new (or old) idea and cause me to think differently. Ian Cron is one of those thinkers – awakening us to the most robust form of spirituality we are capable of.
Ian is a bestselling author, speaker, counselor, and Episcopal priest. He draws on an array of disciplines and resources – from art, music and poetry to contemplative practices; from psychology to Christian spirituality, which gives Ian a unique perspective and important message for Christians.
I’ve seen Ian speak on a couple of different occasions and have been inspired by his transparency and desire for the real thing – pulling back the curtain of church as we know it and truly meeting with God.
We talk about the role of silence in corporate worship, how to coach people to practice silence, challenges we’re facing in corporate worship, what we can learn from other religions, and why so many worship pastors are discouraged.
I’d encourage you to listen and discuss these ideas with your team!
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When introducing change, name people’s anxieties up front.”
– Ian Cron
In this Episode You’ll Hear More About:
- Ian’s preferred vacation.
- Why a mourning routine is so important.
- Why worship leaders should read fiction.
- A look inside Ian’s meditation practice.
- The importance of silence in worship & why we’re so scared of it.
- What Christians can learn from Buddhist practices.
- The problem with big, emotional corporate worship.
- The problem with the phrases, “Bring God” or “Give ’em Heaven.”
- Why so many worship pastors are discouraged and disillusioned.
- A glimpse into Ian’s new book about self discovery & the enneagram.
The job of a worship leader is to create the natural environment in which people are most apt to be awakened to the reality that God is closer to them that they are to themselves.”
– Ian Cron
Resources Mentioned in this Episode:
- Show Sponsor: Learn Worship Keys
- Website: John Main on Christian Meditation
- Website: Ian Cron
- Book: The Road Back to You: An Enneagram Journey to Self Discovery (Pre-Order) by Ian Cron & Suzanne Stabile
- Video: Becoming the Liturgy by Ian Cron
- Book: Into the Silent Land: A Guide to the Christian Practice of Contemplation by Martin Laird
- Book: In This House of Brede by Rumer Godden
- Book: Mystery & Manners: Occasional Prose by Flannery O’Connor
- Book: The Complete Stories by Flannery O’Connor
- Book: Mr. Ives Christmas by Oscar Hjuelos
- Book: New Seeds of Contemplation by Thomas Merton
- Book: The Sign of Jonas by Thomas Merton
- Documentary: Amy (Amy Winehouse)
- Film: In America
- Film: Spotlight
- Film: Calvary
- Music: Jason Isbell
- Music: Chris Stapleton
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